So way back about a month ago I wrote a morning rant titled Let Them Starve? – Why the Hate? Included in the post were three articles two of which pondered the question – Why is there so much hate in America today?? I ended the post with …..
I for one was appalled at the racist Tweets after the crowning of the New Miss America, to me the crowing showed what is right with America! That Americans can accept people of all Nationalities and religions and out of the experiences of many, comes a strong and vibrant nation, “conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal” Gay, Straight, Black, White, male female it doesn’t matter!!! Remember this line from the Pledge of Allegiance “and to the republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.” - Let’s hope!! (emphasis added)
Rick a reader recently commented on the post as follows:
Just read your 9/22/13 post, specifically your very last sentence, “Remember this line from the Pledge of Allegiance “and to the republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.”” Seems you Don’t remember at all. The correct pledge, as passed by a joint resolution of Congress on June 14, 1954, includes the phrase, “under God.” Seems to me that if I have to put up with a moslem negro in the White House, you have to say “under God” when saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Well Rick I do remember the above and I left out the phrase “under God” on purpose, firstly, because it wasn’t in the original Pledge of Allegiance and really was only put there because we were in a Cold War with those Godless communists! And secondly, because I believe in the separation of Church and State and once you stick God in there the question ultimately becomes “Whose God?” and finally I think that the Pledge without God still speaks to the central point of the article that our Republic was founded on liberty and justice for all!! But as I thought about the whole question that was raised, I realized that I really don’t know that much about the Pledge of Allegiance so I took a quick trip to Wikipedia to see what I could find!
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898). The original “Pledge of Allegiance” was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children’s magazine The Youth’s Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’s arrival in the Americas. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, as a campaign to instill the idea of American nationalism by selling flags to public schools and magazines to students. According to author Margarette S. Miller this was in line with Upham’s vision which he “would often say to his wife: ‘Mary, if I can instill into the minds of our American youth a love for their country and the principles on which it was founded, and create in them an ambition to carry on with the ideals which the early founders wrote into the Constitution, I shall not have lived in vain.’” Bellamy’s original Pledge read as follows:[7 I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it – knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.
Ok so let’s see what we have here.the Pledge was written by a Christian Socialist? Hum,Many of today’s Christians certainly don’t believe Christianity and Socialism belong together (although in my mind they certainly do!) The pledge was written to instill American Nationalism and love of the ideals upon which the nation was founded and to me separation of church and state is one… and surprise the pledge doesn’t mention God! And it seems Bellamy understood that while we espouse those ideals in his time we certainly didn’t live up to those ideals!!
Bellamy concluded “It was my thought that a vow of loyalty or allegiance to the flag should be the dominant idea. I especially stressed the word ‘allegiance.’…Beginning with the new word allegiance, I first decided that ‘pledge’ was a better school word than ‘vow’ or ‘swear’; and that the first person singular should be used, and that ‘my’ flag was preferable to ‘the.’” Bellamy considered the words “country, nation, or Republic”, choosing the last as “it distinguished the form of government chosen by the founding fathers and established by the Revolution. The true reason for allegiance to the flag is the Republic for which it stands.” Bellamy then reflected on the sayings of Revolutionary and Civil War figures, and concluded “all that pictured struggle reduced itself to three words, one Nation indivisible.” Bellamy considered the slogan of the French Revolution, Liberté, égalité, fraternité (“liberty, equality, fraternity”), but held that “fraternity was too remote of realization, and as equality was a dubious word.” Concluding “Liberty and justice were surely basic, were undebatable, and were all that any one Nation could handle. If they were exercised for all they involved the spirit of equality and fraternity.”
The Pledge was amended in 1923 changing “My Flag to the flag of the US ……..
In 1923, the National Flag Conference called for the words “my Flag” to be changed to “the Flag of the United States”, so that new immigrants would not confuse loyalties between their birth countries and the United States. The words “of America” were added a year later. The United States Congress officially recognized the Pledge for the first time, in the following form, on June 22, 1942:
And finally we get to the major revision……
Prior to February 1954, no endeavor to get the Pledge officially amended succeeded. The final successful push came from George MacPherson Docherty. Some American presidents honored Lincoln’s birthday by attending services at the church Lincoln attended, New York Avenue Presbyterian Church by sitting in Lincoln’s pew on the Sunday nearest February 12. On February 7, 1954, with President Eisenhower sitting in Lincoln’s pew, the church’s pastor, George MacPherson Docherty, delivered a sermon based on the Gettysburg Address titled “A New Birth of Freedom.” He argued that the nation’s might lay not in arms but its spirit and higher purpose. He noted that the Pledge’s sentiments could be those of any nation, that “there was something missing in the pledge, and that which was missing was the characteristic and definitive factor in the American way of life.” He cited Lincoln’s words “under God” as defining words that set the United States apart from other nations.
So one man wrote a pledge that said that the ideals of the Founders of the Nation were what set the nation apart from the rest of the world, our Republic and the ideal of liberty and justice for all. Another person says the no, there’s still something missing and the missing piece is Lincoln’s phrase “under God” is what sets us apart.
that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Ok so maybe you can say that possibly it is the Christian spirit that sets us apart from the rest of the world and if it is the case then it goes back to my original point —-
How can you claim to be a “Christian” nation and completely ignore the following? Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world .For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’ And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
So maybe just maybe I left God out because he may not need to be there, because his spirit is implied by the words liberty and justice for all!!
If I have to put up with a moslem negro in the White House, you have to say “under God” when saying the Pledge of Allegiance
Above is your last statement and I ask the same question that was posed by Bill Maher – why the hate? which there certainly seems to be in your statement. At first, I thought you made a mistake spelling Muslim – Moslem and then I read the following:
Whereas for most English speakers, the two words are synonymous in meaning, the Arabic roots of the two words are very different. A Muslim in Arabic means”one who gives himself to God,” and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means”one who is evil and unjust” when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z. – See more at: http://hnn.us/article/524#sthash.VUGaTeLg.dpuf
Considering you “Have to put up with the moslem negro President you can’t even make yourself say that we have an African-American President can you? You have to say “in the White House” the operative word being “White” So even though i may have left God out of the pledge i have not left “love and caring for the people and their quest for liberty and equality out of my heart” whereas you have even though you say ”under God” – have! Should I give your response – if it is the same as before HaHaHaHaHa! And now I understand why friends should never discuss religion or politics and even more so – religion and politics!!